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		<title>By: nadine thomas brown</title>
		<link>http://nicobethel.net/blogworld/2005/05/on-citizenship/comment-page-1/#comment-82870</link>
		<dc:creator>nadine thomas brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 02:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love for someone to explain to me the part of national policy or security that a teacher/journalist married to a bahamian doctor was in danger of breaking or injuring. Think about it Nico. They had literally placed my application on a shelf and left it there without allowing it to go through the process. If I had not started asking after it and in true Caribbean style got a muckity muck to ask after it. My spouse permit would have expired and I would have had to still be paying for one ever so often. I cannot imagine what the males who marry Bahamian women have to put up with.

Nevertheless. After you live in a place it becomes your home and you love it. You take care of it and put your all into it. Then to have to be constantly reminded that you is a foreigner vell vait...

&quot;I need to write a play about  the displacement of  legal immigrants&quot;.
I feel homeless and voiceless...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love for someone to explain to me the part of national policy or security that a teacher/journalist married to a bahamian doctor was in danger of breaking or injuring. Think about it Nico. They had literally placed my application on a shelf and left it there without allowing it to go through the process. If I had not started asking after it and in true Caribbean style got a muckity muck to ask after it. My spouse permit would have expired and I would have had to still be paying for one ever so often. I cannot imagine what the males who marry Bahamian women have to put up with.</p>
<p>Nevertheless. After you live in a place it becomes your home and you love it. You take care of it and put your all into it. Then to have to be constantly reminded that you is a foreigner vell vait&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;I need to write a play about  the displacement of  legal immigrants&#8221;.<br />
I feel homeless and voiceless&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nicolette Bethel</title>
		<link>http://nicobethel.net/blogworld/2005/05/on-citizenship/comment-page-1/#comment-82868</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicolette Bethel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nadine, I know that in practice things are difficult, but here is what the Constitution says:

&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Marriage to citizens of The Bahamas.&lt;/b&gt;

10.- Any woman who, after 9th July 1973, marries a person who is or becomes a citizen of The Bahamas shall be entitled, provided she is still so married, upon making application in such manner as may be prescribed and upon taking the oath of allegiance of such declaration as may be prescribed, to be registered as a citizen of The Bahamas:

Provided that the right to be registered as a citizen of The Bahamas under this Article shall be subject to such exceptions or qualifications as may be prescribed in the interests of national security of public policy.&lt;/i&gt;

http://pdba.georgetown.edu/Constitutions/Bahamas/bah73.html

I agree with you about contribution to the country, by the way.  I think that we should all have to qualify in some way for our document of nationality.  And I agree that many many non-Bahamians who live here do far more to build Bahamian society than so-called Bahamians.

Let me stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nadine, I know that in practice things are difficult, but here is what the Constitution says:</p>
<p><i><b>Marriage to citizens of The Bahamas.</b></p>
<p>10.- Any woman who, after 9th July 1973, marries a person who is or becomes a citizen of The Bahamas shall be entitled, provided she is still so married, upon making application in such manner as may be prescribed and upon taking the oath of allegiance of such declaration as may be prescribed, to be registered as a citizen of The Bahamas:</p>
<p>Provided that the right to be registered as a citizen of The Bahamas under this Article shall be subject to such exceptions or qualifications as may be prescribed in the interests of national security of public policy.</i></p>
<p><a href="http://pdba.georgetown.edu/Constitutions/Bahamas/bah73.html" rel="nofollow">http://pdba.georgetown.edu/Constitutions/Bahamas/bah73.html</a></p>
<p>I agree with you about contribution to the country, by the way.  I think that we should all have to qualify in some way for our document of nationality.  And I agree that many many non-Bahamians who live here do far more to build Bahamian society than so-called Bahamians.</p>
<p>Let me stop.</p>
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		<title>By: nadine thomas brown</title>
		<link>http://nicobethel.net/blogworld/2005/05/on-citizenship/comment-page-1/#comment-82867</link>
		<dc:creator>nadine thomas brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicolette... the constitution says that a foreign woman who marries a Bahamian man is a citizen? Chile where? I have been married now for almost 10 years and had to put up with a mess of hassles before i even received a permanent residency status. I have no intention of applying for citezenship due to the hassel i received  those years .

You do not and I repeat do not automatically receive Bahamian citizenship if you marry a Bahamian man. You still have to live in the country on a spouse permit for at least 4 years before you get a permanent resident application form. Then if you are Jamaican/haitian you have to wait a thousand years-like I did - before they find your application stuffed away on a dusty shelf -like mine was- [found this out long after]. Plus put up with agressive rude immigration officers [if you are Jamaican/Haitian].

My thing is not the obvious bias in the country against foreigners [especially the black ones] my concern is people are so concerned with who you are and where you come from that they fail to see the many contributions some of us are making to the country. If contributions in terms of health, the arts, education, finance could be a criteria for citezenship them many of us foreigners would qualify whereas many so called Bahamians would fail miserably. I saw the whole referendum fiasco as people&#039;s rejection of &quot;foreigners&quot; yet again. They thought this was some sneaky way of getting foreigners to be legitimate... I was very disappointed especially in the women. Here it is that Bahamians have children off to school in every major country in the world for years at a time. If they think about it rationally...these are the same kids who are gonna come back with foreign wives and husbands and with children who cannot be fully Bahamians because of the constitution. ladies you might lose your daughters over this...the hassel could send them off to foreign climes where the constitution is not so stupid.

the ironic thing is that the country  was founded by a foreigner Lynden Pindling&#039;s daddy was Jamaican. Now talk dat! Maybe we should blame him for the constitution&#039;s assinine qualities afterall aren&#039;t foreigner&#039;s blamed for everything that ails the country? And for all intents and purposes he was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicolette&#8230; the constitution says that a foreign woman who marries a Bahamian man is a citizen? Chile where? I have been married now for almost 10 years and had to put up with a mess of hassles before i even received a permanent residency status. I have no intention of applying for citezenship due to the hassel i received  those years .</p>
<p>You do not and I repeat do not automatically receive Bahamian citizenship if you marry a Bahamian man. You still have to live in the country on a spouse permit for at least 4 years before you get a permanent resident application form. Then if you are Jamaican/haitian you have to wait a thousand years-like I did &#8211; before they find your application stuffed away on a dusty shelf -like mine was- [found this out long after]. Plus put up with agressive rude immigration officers [if you are Jamaican/Haitian].</p>
<p>My thing is not the obvious bias in the country against foreigners [especially the black ones] my concern is people are so concerned with who you are and where you come from that they fail to see the many contributions some of us are making to the country. If contributions in terms of health, the arts, education, finance could be a criteria for citezenship them many of us foreigners would qualify whereas many so called Bahamians would fail miserably. I saw the whole referendum fiasco as people&#8217;s rejection of &#8220;foreigners&#8221; yet again. They thought this was some sneaky way of getting foreigners to be legitimate&#8230; I was very disappointed especially in the women. Here it is that Bahamians have children off to school in every major country in the world for years at a time. If they think about it rationally&#8230;these are the same kids who are gonna come back with foreign wives and husbands and with children who cannot be fully Bahamians because of the constitution. ladies you might lose your daughters over this&#8230;the hassel could send them off to foreign climes where the constitution is not so stupid.</p>
<p>the ironic thing is that the country  was founded by a foreigner Lynden Pindling&#8217;s daddy was Jamaican. Now talk dat! Maybe we should blame him for the constitution&#8217;s assinine qualities afterall aren&#8217;t foreigner&#8217;s blamed for everything that ails the country? And for all intents and purposes he was.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicolette Bethel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicolette Bethel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t answer anything as specific as that.  I suggest you ask your family to make enquiries through the Ministry of Immigration, or go to http://www.bahamas.gov.bs and check out the immigration law to see what&#039;s possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t answer anything as specific as that.  I suggest you ask your family to make enquiries through the Ministry of Immigration, or go to <a href="http://www.bahamas.gov.bs" rel="nofollow">http://www.bahamas.gov.bs</a> and check out the immigration law to see what&#8217;s possible.</p>
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		<title>By: iszy</title>
		<link>http://nicobethel.net/blogworld/2005/05/on-citizenship/comment-page-1/#comment-82666</link>
		<dc:creator>iszy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WAS BORN IN THE BAHAMAS TO HAITIANS PARENTS,BUT RESENTLY MY DAD BECAME A BAHAMIAN CITIZEN,CAN I BECOME A BAHAMIAN CITIZEN THROUGH HIM? MY OTHER QUESTION IS I&#039;VE BEEN LIVING IN THE U.S FOR THE PASS 6 YRS WITH MY EXPIRED TRAVEL DOCUMENTS AND EXPIRED VISA....,I WANT TO GO BACK TO TRY AND GET MY CITIZENSHIP WILL I BE ABLE TO GET IT STILL EVENTHOUGH I OVER STAYED?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WAS BORN IN THE BAHAMAS TO HAITIANS PARENTS,BUT RESENTLY MY DAD BECAME A BAHAMIAN CITIZEN,CAN I BECOME A BAHAMIAN CITIZEN THROUGH HIM? MY OTHER QUESTION IS I&#8217;VE BEEN LIVING IN THE U.S FOR THE PASS 6 YRS WITH MY EXPIRED TRAVEL DOCUMENTS AND EXPIRED VISA&#8230;.,I WANT TO GO BACK TO TRY AND GET MY CITIZENSHIP WILL I BE ABLE TO GET IT STILL EVENTHOUGH I OVER STAYED?</p>
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		<title>By: Nicolette Bethel</title>
		<link>http://nicobethel.net/blogworld/2005/05/on-citizenship/comment-page-1/#comment-65745</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicolette Bethel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 03:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m afraid I don&#039;t.  I suggest you try the BTC telephone directory and call the Department of Immigration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m afraid I don&#8217;t.  I suggest you try the BTC telephone directory and call the Department of Immigration.</p>
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		<title>By: sheldon</title>
		<link>http://nicobethel.net/blogworld/2005/05/on-citizenship/comment-page-1/#comment-65727</link>
		<dc:creator>sheldon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 01:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CAN  YOU GIVE A CONTACT NUMBER OF SOMEONE TO CALL ON THIS MATTER.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CAN  YOU GIVE A CONTACT NUMBER OF SOMEONE TO CALL ON THIS MATTER.</p>
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		<title>By: sheldon</title>
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		<dc:creator>sheldon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>do you have a phone number for me to contact someone on this matter. also can you let me know how long it take for to receive your citizenship.  thanks for your response!

sheldon,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>do you have a phone number for me to contact someone on this matter. also can you let me know how long it take for to receive your citizenship.  thanks for your response!</p>
<p>sheldon,</p>
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		<title>By: Nicolette Bethel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicolette Bethel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t answer that question for you, I&#039;m afraid.  It&#039;s too specialized for a lay person, which I am.  Someone in Immigration is going to have to deal with it for you.  If your father is a Bahamian you are certainly entitled to citizenship (according to the Bahamian Constitution), but what I am not sure about is whether your citizenship is automatic or whether you have to apply.  I am also not sure whether you can be a dual citizen or not.  You will have to contact an expert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t answer that question for you, I&#8217;m afraid.  It&#8217;s too specialized for a lay person, which I am.  Someone in Immigration is going to have to deal with it for you.  If your father is a Bahamian you are certainly entitled to citizenship (according to the Bahamian Constitution), but what I am not sure about is whether your citizenship is automatic or whether you have to apply.  I am also not sure whether you can be a dual citizen or not.  You will have to contact an expert.</p>
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		<title>By: sheldon</title>
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		<dc:creator>sheldon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 06:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t find it. can you please answer my question? 

thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t find it. can you please answer my question? </p>
<p>thanks</p>
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