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		<title>By: Nicolette Bethel</title>
		<link>http://nicobethel.net/blogworld/2009/10/on-holding-one-other-in-contempt/comment-page-1/#comment-83208</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicolette Bethel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick and Hanna (Dawn?) - yes! A Bahamian Magna Carta! Yes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick and Hanna (Dawn?) &#8211; yes! A Bahamian Magna Carta! Yes!</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Lowe</title>
		<link>http://nicobethel.net/blogworld/2009/10/on-holding-one-other-in-contempt/comment-page-1/#comment-83206</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Lowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But all the institutions (schools, churches, law enforcement agencies, judiciary, etc) on which we’ve built our society reinforce the hierarchy in all sorts of ways&quot;

Are you suggesting we need a Bahamian Magna Carta?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But all the institutions (schools, churches, law enforcement agencies, judiciary, etc) on which we’ve built our society reinforce the hierarchy in all sorts of ways&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you suggesting we need a Bahamian Magna Carta?</p>
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		<title>By: Hanna</title>
		<link>http://nicobethel.net/blogworld/2009/10/on-holding-one-other-in-contempt/comment-page-1/#comment-83205</link>
		<dc:creator>Hanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why Nico - reformation of the Bahamas constitution to reflect the true plight of our people - nurished and fortified with the basic underpinnings toward self and family and the upliftment of the rule of law.

The bahamian people are statis at best , beleving that govrnment is the solution to all societal ills / sometimes even personal problems ...... herein lies the foundation that all preceeding wayward thinking and actions take place - with regard to the attainment self sufficiency, self reliance, mental enlightenment ...... hhmm .....&quot;if only gov can solve my problems -why should I  seek resolution to my problems elsewhere ?&quot; True liberty starts first with the understanding of oneself!! through self analysis - the latter can only occur absent the view that one is not central of his survival.

The change - you seek , as you probably are aware of can only come about from the death to a new way of processing thoughts in the mind. A new way of thinking must exist and must start with the new generation through the home, school , churches and echoed by government courts and social organizations.

We need constitutional reform - for a new Bahamas in its own character, tone, stance , courage and steadfast progressiveness of and for the people of the nation - with further allegence and loyalty to just cause and rights wherein making each person the center piece of his / her own God given right to survival thereof absent the allegence to a  Crown, Governement or Corporation........Freedom and rights for all through the divine rights and will of our creator. 

This should be the preamble of such a reformed / restrategized constitution!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why Nico &#8211; reformation of the Bahamas constitution to reflect the true plight of our people &#8211; nurished and fortified with the basic underpinnings toward self and family and the upliftment of the rule of law.</p>
<p>The bahamian people are statis at best , beleving that govrnment is the solution to all societal ills / sometimes even personal problems &#8230;&#8230; herein lies the foundation that all preceeding wayward thinking and actions take place &#8211; with regard to the attainment self sufficiency, self reliance, mental enlightenment &#8230;&#8230; hhmm &#8230;..&#8221;if only gov can solve my problems -why should I  seek resolution to my problems elsewhere ?&#8221; True liberty starts first with the understanding of oneself!! through self analysis &#8211; the latter can only occur absent the view that one is not central of his survival.</p>
<p>The change &#8211; you seek , as you probably are aware of can only come about from the death to a new way of processing thoughts in the mind. A new way of thinking must exist and must start with the new generation through the home, school , churches and echoed by government courts and social organizations.</p>
<p>We need constitutional reform &#8211; for a new Bahamas in its own character, tone, stance , courage and steadfast progressiveness of and for the people of the nation &#8211; with further allegence and loyalty to just cause and rights wherein making each person the center piece of his / her own God given right to survival thereof absent the allegence to a  Crown, Governement or Corporation&#8230;&#8230;..Freedom and rights for all through the divine rights and will of our creator. </p>
<p>This should be the preamble of such a reformed / restrategized constitution!!</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; Bahamas: Effects of Colonialism</title>
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		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; Bahamas: Effects of Colonialism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] space of the world&#8230;is not quite real. It isn’t really happening to proper people&#8221;: Nicolette Bethel explores one of the effects of the Bahamas&#039; colonial past, while Weblog Bahamas&#8216; Rick [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Nico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s by no means a conscious thing. As I say, most of the conscious rhetoric recognizes the harm done to us by colonialism. But all the institutions (schools, churches, law enforcement agencies, judiciary, etc) on which we&#039;ve built our society reinforce the hierarchy in all sorts of ways, and until we recognize the unconscious and subconscious messages these things send, all the conscious rhetoric in the world won&#039;t change anything at all.

Sometimes it&#039;s hard to make the change. That&#039;s why revolutions can be effective. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s by no means a conscious thing. As I say, most of the conscious rhetoric recognizes the harm done to us by colonialism. But all the institutions (schools, churches, law enforcement agencies, judiciary, etc) on which we&#8217;ve built our society reinforce the hierarchy in all sorts of ways, and until we recognize the unconscious and subconscious messages these things send, all the conscious rhetoric in the world won&#8217;t change anything at all.</p>
<p>Sometimes it&#8217;s hard to make the change. That&#8217;s why revolutions can be effective. <img src='http://nicobethel.net/blogworld/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rick Lowe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Lowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Nico:
In my family our &quot;european&quot; heritage was never discussed.
What held our head up was the family struggle from a grandfather with no shoes until the age of 14 to what we are today - middle class.
In fact, my family was as resentful of the British as many of our people are today.
Yet, when I look at what we were, and what we have become as a people, it seems to me, we have lost something.
Self respect? Maybe. Concern for others? Maybe.
In the final analysis it&#039;s disconcerting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Nico:<br />
In my family our &#8220;european&#8221; heritage was never discussed.<br />
What held our head up was the family struggle from a grandfather with no shoes until the age of 14 to what we are today &#8211; middle class.<br />
In fact, my family was as resentful of the British as many of our people are today.<br />
Yet, when I look at what we were, and what we have become as a people, it seems to me, we have lost something.<br />
Self respect? Maybe. Concern for others? Maybe.<br />
In the final analysis it&#8217;s disconcerting.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicolette Bethel</title>
		<link>http://nicobethel.net/blogworld/2009/10/on-holding-one-other-in-contempt/comment-page-1/#comment-83201</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicolette Bethel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick, of course you&#039;re right -- we are ourselves to blame; when I, or historians, talk about colonialism it is in relation to matters of fact, not blame. But the facts are, to my mind, indisputable; the reason colonialism remains responsible is that it created the institutions that taught, and teach, us to despise ourselves. The colonial enterprise was an awesomely efficient one, and taught the world to view itself in a particular way -- with Europe at the top of it, and &quot;civilization&quot; as defined by Europeans in European terms, and with Africa at the very bottom. Even today this model of the world persists in the minds of every one of us, even in the minds of those of us who think we have overcome it; the &quot;white man&#039;s burden&quot; goes on, these days borne by many image-makers. It has moved to the realm of the symbolic and the subconscious now, and is complicated horribly by surface rhetoric that changes very little about the model but that, ironically, reinforces many of its principles. 

Our biggest problem here in The Bahamas is that we have never taught our citizens how to respect the nation, its whole history, its place in the world, and have never given Bahamians a good reason to respect themselves. White Bahamians are affected differently in this scenario than black Bahamians, of course; white people everywhere have at least the hierarchy of civilization as imagined by the expansionist Europeans to bolster their self-conceptions. Black Bahamians, on the other hand, have countered that hierarchy with little more than rhetoric. The truth, in my opinion, is that we have created our own reality here in The Bahamas, white and black alike and together (of course I speak as someone who stands in between the two, so my perspective is, in most meanings of the term, coloured by my personal heritage), and it&#039;s a pretty astonishing one. But we have not told our own collective story well enough or with enough respect for it to mean very much at all.

Our self contempt therefore is inherited from the view of the world that made colonialism possible for decent Europeans to support -- the idea that the rest of the world &quot;needed&quot; Europe to conquer and civilize it. Most of us are not included in that vision. Where we are most certainly and persistently to blame is that in forty years (in the Bahamas) and in fifty years (in too much of the rest of the postcolonial world) we have not worked as hard on creating our own truer vision of our selves as the imperialists worked on creating the vision that we all secretly still share: that white is right, brown could hang around, and black should still hang back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick, of course you&#8217;re right &#8212; we are ourselves to blame; when I, or historians, talk about colonialism it is in relation to matters of fact, not blame. But the facts are, to my mind, indisputable; the reason colonialism remains responsible is that it created the institutions that taught, and teach, us to despise ourselves. The colonial enterprise was an awesomely efficient one, and taught the world to view itself in a particular way &#8212; with Europe at the top of it, and &#8220;civilization&#8221; as defined by Europeans in European terms, and with Africa at the very bottom. Even today this model of the world persists in the minds of every one of us, even in the minds of those of us who think we have overcome it; the &#8220;white man&#8217;s burden&#8221; goes on, these days borne by many image-makers. It has moved to the realm of the symbolic and the subconscious now, and is complicated horribly by surface rhetoric that changes very little about the model but that, ironically, reinforces many of its principles. </p>
<p>Our biggest problem here in The Bahamas is that we have never taught our citizens how to respect the nation, its whole history, its place in the world, and have never given Bahamians a good reason to respect themselves. White Bahamians are affected differently in this scenario than black Bahamians, of course; white people everywhere have at least the hierarchy of civilization as imagined by the expansionist Europeans to bolster their self-conceptions. Black Bahamians, on the other hand, have countered that hierarchy with little more than rhetoric. The truth, in my opinion, is that we have created our own reality here in The Bahamas, white and black alike and together (of course I speak as someone who stands in between the two, so my perspective is, in most meanings of the term, coloured by my personal heritage), and it&#8217;s a pretty astonishing one. But we have not told our own collective story well enough or with enough respect for it to mean very much at all.</p>
<p>Our self contempt therefore is inherited from the view of the world that made colonialism possible for decent Europeans to support &#8212; the idea that the rest of the world &#8220;needed&#8221; Europe to conquer and civilize it. Most of us are not included in that vision. Where we are most certainly and persistently to blame is that in forty years (in the Bahamas) and in fifty years (in too much of the rest of the postcolonial world) we have not worked as hard on creating our own truer vision of our selves as the imperialists worked on creating the vision that we all secretly still share: that white is right, brown could hang around, and black should still hang back.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Lowe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Lowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Nico:
I&#039;m often left bewildered why colonialism is still blamed for this stuff after all these years.
Surely we only have ourselves to blame at this stage of the game (42 years of self rule...3 or 4 generations)?
What am I missing?
Rick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Nico:<br />
I&#8217;m often left bewildered why colonialism is still blamed for this stuff after all these years.<br />
Surely we only have ourselves to blame at this stage of the game (42 years of self rule&#8230;3 or 4 generations)?<br />
What am I missing?<br />
Rick</p>
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